Leaving the world and scripts, Going offline and safety. Options

[Matlush]

How do you see it ? When does character log out, is he leaving the world or sleeping ? Also, there's something about stamina.

I've got these visions of going offline:

- Character logs off, and he disappears. Nothing is done to him.
+Logging off is easy thing to do.
+/- You're safe from monsters and other players.

- Character logs off, and he falls down as he is asleep in the world. Yet he can use beds instead of falling to the ground
+Realistic feature, and with it you could see which towns are good organized, and which not.
+Sleeping in bed would make your "long run*" stamina regain
+/- You're vurneable for monster/player attacks.
- Possibly too much people in world and near start area that are sleeping. Could cause lag.
- Could lead to frustating situation when you've got to get a safe place, and yet you need to log off as quick as possible.

- Character logs off, and he leaves the world. Yet he can use a bed to get a stamina regain boost. Guys in beds can be killed by players (or animals if they get to you)
+ Non frustating way.
+/- You can still choose between safety and buff gain.


* stamina that affects your short run stamina, which is used to do normal tasks.

Two last visions of logging off would allow scripting

Scripts would be only useable to protect yourself from getting killed when a raid on a town is done (and horns are sounded). You could only do move commands, attack commands, lock/unlock commands, equip command (which could allow only equip stuff that acts like armour or weapon)

So, when villagers are in sleep, and a raid is on, horn is sounded. It wakes up villagers, which can do thing related with their scripts. So, villagers could do such things:

- Some villagers gets up, equip their armors, and go fight with the raiders.
- Others lock themselfs in a safe area, which could be for example castle.
- And others run away to other city, or a hideout.

There could be a script maker, that would allow you to make a good moving and equipping script, but others could work like that:

If all villager pass the main gate from west, or enemy is 10m near main gate, then lock main gate.
If main gate locked, then equip short bow, equip leather armour, equip quiver, equip 100 arrows, and then move by getup(moving curve of some sort, that is saved on client), and then move to arrowpos4, and then attack enemy nearest.

Suggestion here: If one thing is not done, then just bypass it, so if there's no bow, then do other things, unless there's something like:

If equip short bow false, then equip crossbow. If equip crossbow false, then move by runaway.

If character is getting killed, scripts stop working, so there wont be any short bow equiping in outworld.

Fell free to comment it... or rather "please comment it" XD.

[RicoSuave]

I think Minthos is right in the fact that crafting should be one of those things best left to offline (ingame) macros. However, I disagree with the idea of being able to walk around town while your character is focusing his/her attention on a tradeskill that takes extreme attention.
In a separate thread Jerky mentioned ways of getting others to log off (to help reduce power gaming). Perhaps if crafting is a one-action-only action, it would make players want to spend that time offline (while still getting things done in game).
If we implement the character rest/sleep idea we spoke of LONG ago, the macro could state something along the lines of:
<macro>
Do: {50% of total time offline}
- Make: Craft basic arrows
- Make: Craft basic bows
Do: {48% of total time offline}
- Rest: Sleep
Do: {2% of total time offline}
- Spam: "Bows and Arrows available! Custom orders possible..."
- Spam: "Reduced prices for large-quantity orders..."
- Spam: "Will return soon."
</macro>
Big Brother will need to make sure no one can spam chat more than XX% of the time. Little bothers me more than spam. Perhaps we could add a tag for any spammed chat that could be filtered by the client or simply by human eyes... i.e.
[spam] <Rico> Shine your armor for a copper.
[spam] <Rico> Hey, give me back my dolly.
<Minthos> Does anyone know how to silence a spammer?
<NJPaul> Go to Communication Options, check on "silence spam," and enjoy.
<Jerky> Or, just wait until the guard's back is turned and plunge a dagger between the 5th and 6th rib.
<Minthos> haha
<Brotoi> lol

Or make all offline spam be a different hard to read color...
[spam] <Rico> Shine your armor for a copper.
[spam] <Rico> Hey, give me back my dolly.

But to restate my original reply, I think Minthos is right about having crafting take a while and be available offline.